Rockem Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 I'm now trying Sam9 Demo (cubase refugee) and I have this setup: - two identical tracks on 1 and 2 - uad plug on one of them .. now it s working fine, but if i disable the plugin DURING playback I get this weird out of sync problem if i stop playback and play again its fine // what can it be ?? thanx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill bokey Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 this is due to latency compensation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtrguy1@aol.com Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 Instead of disabling the UAD pluggin use the power off switch that all the pluggins have. This keeps the timing correct. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockem Posted September 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 Instead of disabling the UAD pluggin use the power off switch that all the pluggins have. This keeps the timing correct.Jeff Not all the plugins have power off switches. I don't understand why I can't bypass a plugin during playback and I have to stop playing and start it again .. how do you guys A/B things ? it apears to me that when I bypass the effect during playback, the effect is bypassed but the delay is still there. is this a bug ? thanx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Dolbear Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 No, not a problem, All UAD plugs have a "power on off switch from testing/A/B. I can't think of a single one that doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockem Posted September 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 No, not a problem, All UAD plugs have a "power on off switch from testing/A/B.I can't think of a single one that doesn't. 1178LN doesn't (I think) but still, this is a bit odd that I have to rely on third party software for such simple feature. what about other plugs (not by UAD) ? and still i would have to open the plug instead of disabling it from the mixer also, I don't have an indication that the effect is off in the mixer oh well . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastian.Gabler Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 Hi Rockem, if the plug changes the latency reported, the host app doesn't know that. That's a compatibility problem. /S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockem Posted September 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 Hi Rockem,if the plug changes the latency reported, the host app doesn't know that. That's a compatibility problem. /S umm maybe .. but its working fine with any other sequencer so .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastian.Gabler Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 what gives? /s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockem Posted September 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 what gives?/s I'm sorry, I still don't understand why is this acceptable in cubase I can disable ANY effect during playback and everything is good why in samplitude its ok that I can't do this ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastian.Gabler Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 I haven't said it is ok. I have said it is maybe a compatibility issue. It is not so that all Sequencers would be equal. And also not always Samplitude is at error if something doesn't work. If you feel that everything should work like in Cubase, that's where you go. It's up to you to decide if you can work around it or if it a deal breaker for you. /S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockem Posted September 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 I haven't said it is ok. I have said it is maybe a compatibility issue. It is not so that all Sequencers would be equal. And also not always Samplitude is at error if something doesn't work. If you feel that everything should work like in Cubase, that's where you go. It's up to you to decide if you can work around it or if it a deal breaker for you. /S I accept that, but compability ?, this is happen with every UAD plugin .. and this is important, does samplitude has problems with UAD ? thanx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastian.Gabler Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 maybe vice versa. There is no Lex UAD as well. Cubase is a track based host. Samplitude has also the Object Engine. UAD may have worked around quirks in Cubase. Actually you should tell them that you plan to use Samplitude and they should do you the favour fixing this. As it works with other plugins in Samplitude as well... /S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockem Posted September 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 maybe vice versa. There is no Lex UAD as well. Cubase is a track based host. Samplitude has also the Object Engine. UAD may have worked around quirks in Cubase. Actually you should tell them that you plan to use Samplitude and they should do you the favour fixing this. As it works with other plugins in Samplitude as well.../S checked a little further ... what would you say if i told you that the same thing happens with samplitude's own effects as well ?? I loaded the am_pulse effect, start playback, then disable the effect during playback the effect is disabled but the delay is still present making somewhat phase effect. restart playback everything is fine btw, its happen also in reverse - enabling the effect while playing (SIR also does that, just for the record) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Pell Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 Hi Rockem, Its jsut the way Samp. monitors all plugs that require Latency compensation.. even the Hybrid engine works this way and its Low latency like cubase . I check my plugs by either turning off the power or if theres no bypass feature on the plug, try stoping and turning it off then playing again . Its not optimal .. but its minor to me compared to all the other advantages of Samps engines . Hope it not a deal breaker for you.. Samp rocks in so many other ways that SX cant even touch... ( Full on Cubase refuge) , Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastian.Gabler Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 restart playback everything is fine btw, its happen also in reverse - enabling the effect while playing If that's all: Confirmed. It has been like that always and I do say that this is ok. For me, at least. /S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azlanah Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 Just tested my UAD with samp9. I believe the latest UAD drivers (4.7.1) actually eliminate this latency (on/off) problem when playing with samplitude 9 but I cant say the same thing for the demo version though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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