Johnny Blade Report post Posted October 4, 2019 Hi all. iZotope Ozone 9 has been officially released. Is anyone here already testing it with Samp? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nordlead Report post Posted October 9, 2019 Hi, I'm using Pro X3 and because I had just recently upgraded from Ozone 7 Elements to Ozone 8 Adv, so I was able to enjoy a free update to Ozone 9 Adv. The first thing I noticed in "9" was that the first time scanning of the new VSTs had already taken an unusually long time (several minutes!). When opening Ozone 9 in the mastering section of the mixer I had to wait 15 to 20 seconds until the plugin was open. Ozone 8 opens within 2 seconds. When Ozone 9 was open, I could use everything without any problems so far. Then I asked if it was Samplitude (Pro X3 still has problems with VST3) and did the same in Reaper - the same experience (both when scanning the VSTs for the first time and also later when opening the plugin). I'm going to reinstall version 9 and see if that's the reason, but I can't imagine. Obviously, there are still older Ozone versions on my system (Ozone 7 Elements and 8 Adv.), but this shouldn't be a problem. --- Postscript: There was an update overnight (9.02), so now the standalone version opens as fast as the 8er so far. In both DAWs it still takes so long. Apparently iZotope is still working on it... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny Blade Report post Posted October 9, 2019 14 hours ago, Nordlead said: The first thing I noticed in "9" was that the first time scanning of the new VSTs had already taken an unusually long time (several minutes!). When opening Ozone 9 in the mastering section of the mixer I had to wait 15 to 20 seconds until the plugin was open. Ozone 8 opens within 2 seconds. When Ozone 9 was open, I could use everything without any problems so far. Then I asked if it was Samplitude (Pro X3 still has problems with VST3) and did the same in Reaper - the same experience (both when scanning the VSTs for the first time and also later when opening the plugin). The same here!!! And many users of other DAWS have also experienced this delay. I am disappointed! 14 hours ago, Nordlead said: --- Postscript: There was an update overnight (9.02), so now the standalone version opens as fast as the 8er so far. In both DAWs it still takes so long. Apparently iZotope is still working on it... Good news, I'm going to check this out, thanks for that!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nordlead Report post Posted October 9, 2019 Well, I new situation: Still thinking that perhaps my system is the root of the problem I have uninstalled all Ozone versions and all user data as well, also checked that there were no VSTs left in the various folders and started reinstalling.First Ozone 9 - and nothing was better. Even the installation process took at least 3 times as long as the installation of O8. Then the initial scan again several minutes (O8 took perhaps 10 seconds for the whole scan) and opening of any O9 plugin in the DAWs again more than 10 seconds.Then again Ozone 8 to have the comparison: fast installation, fast initial scan, fast opening.Well the weirdest thing was than that I noticed that both standalone versions for O9 and O8 don't "play" anymore! When pressing "play" the "cursor" remains at 0:00 min and nothing can be heard. In the DAW the plugins work fine. I did the whole procedure of uninstalling and reinstalling again, with no better result.So I've written to the support team and will hopefully get some help. @Johnny Blade: Thanks for confirming that this seems to be a general problem. So, we'll wait for a soon update and hopefully also this strange "play error" in the standalone version will be gone as well... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny Blade Report post Posted October 9, 2019 Yes. We all need an update! O7 and O8 are still great and much better to load. I think the new scalable skin is the villain. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Pre Report post Posted October 9, 2019 I am content with O8 still learning it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny Blade Report post Posted October 9, 2019 O8 is perfect. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fwrend Report post Posted October 9, 2019 I'm not seeing any difference between Pro X3 & X4 (388). On Master Bus, O8 & O9 loads in 2-3 seconds and maybe 1 second switching between presets. Tried it on an empty VIP as well as a 24 track project. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny Blade Report post Posted October 9, 2019 Interesting... I'm still waiting for 10/15 secs to load an O9 plugin into the X4. And it's not X4 fault. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nordlead Report post Posted October 10, 2019 8 hours ago, fwrend said: I'm not seeing any difference between Pro X3 & X4 (388). On Master Bus, O8 & O9 loads in 2-3 seconds and maybe 1 second switching between presets. Tried it on an empty VIP as well as a 24 track project. Thanks for your feedback, really strange and interesting at the same time. I have the same problems as Johnny Blade. O9 behaved weirdly right from the first installation. It’s good that it’s working for you! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nordlead Report post Posted October 10, 2019 I quickly did another test and installed O9 on another Win 10 PC as a trial. The same problem with Reaper (slow installation of the software, several minutes of initial VST scanning, more than 10 seconds to load a plugin) can be seen here as well. The only difference here is that the standalone version runs (plays) fine. Somehow on my Music PC some "installation leftovers" (in the registry?) seem to interfere with the re-installation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fwrend Report post Posted October 10, 2019 Hmm, that does seem strange that it happens on two different computers. FWIW, I am running the ASIO driver provided with my MOTU 8M and not the Magix Low Latency one. Also, this is with the VST 2 version. For some reason Sam isn't picking up the VST 3 version on scan. Wish I could be of more help. EDIT: also loads fine in Reaper - even a bit quicker. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nordlead Report post Posted October 14, 2019 Hi all, I had contacted the iZotope support and have sent them on demand some analytic data from my system. I’ve just received this mail from them: “Thanks so much for that, our developers have identified an issue that can be fixed through an update. This will likely be pushed in the next week or two. I'm sorry for any inconvenience here!” Some days before they’ve written: “Thanks for all of these details, we're closing in on an issue here. It seems to be limited to custom built PCs on the new Windows OS.” This sounds great and so we’ll wait and looking forward to this update Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny Blade Report post Posted October 14, 2019 Yes, I think so! Thanks for sharing that! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fwrend Report post Posted October 14, 2019 @Nordlead Great news - iZotope rocks! FYI, I had just upgraded to Music Production Suite 2.1 back in early August. Then, they released O9 & MPS 3 earlier this month. I was a little bummed about it because the upgrade price to MPS 3 is $199 at iZotope and $167 (at a third party site). I emailed support and they responded back letting me know I was just outside of the grace period but because I was a long-time customer, proceeded to offer me a FREE upgrade along with the current sale extras (Exponential Audio R4 & Nimbus and One-year pass to Groove3). So, if you haven't upgraded yet, don't hesitate to email them - it's worth a shot. The sale is still on and you can pick up the MPS 2.1->3 upgrade for $167.17 including the aforementioned extras at JRR Shop using the code group. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny Blade Report post Posted October 26, 2019 Version 9.0.2 is out. Can anyone tell if there have been improvements? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nordlead Report post Posted October 27, 2019 10 hours ago, Johnny Blade said: Version 9.0.2 is out. Can anyone tell if there have been improvements? No, 9.0.2 is actually the version from October 9th (see one of the posts above), it still has the "extremely slow issue". Still waiting for the promised update where this problem shall be solved (as customer support has written to me). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny Blade Report post Posted October 27, 2019 Oh... thanks for that, In fact, I was wrong ... it must be anxiety, since I like this tool very much... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tonuli Report post Posted November 27, 2019 Anybody here using Ozone 9 with restricted user rights? We permanently get error message on program start: "Resource files missing". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny Blade Report post Posted December 5, 2019 Ozone 9 takes a long time to be inserted into a plugin chain, but once inserted it opens as smooth as Ozone 8. After some testing, I noticed that there were noticeable improvements in DSP algorithms. For example, the Maximizer IRC IV (Modern mode) now delivers warmer, smoother sound with noticeable detail. Vintage Limiter (Tube mode) features a more "inflated" saturation, which produces a much more "full" sound. As I compare the plugins against the similar ones of Ozone 8 I have the impression that it is a totally new program, and this is very good and interesting! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny Blade Report post Posted December 5, 2019 However, Samplitude still takes a long time to open projects loaded with Ozone 9 plugins. In that respect, Ozone 8 and 7 are perfect. iZotope needs to fix this problem. I see many users of other DAWS complaining a lot about this in various specialized forums. I can't get news about whether or not the company is moving about it, but judging by the complaints, I hope so. Ozone 9, when it works as expected, represents an exciting upgrade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny Blade Report post Posted December 23, 2019 Version 9.0.3 was released few days ago. Has anyone tried and felt any improvement in loading the plugins into Samp? Source - https://www.izotope.com/en/products/downloads/ozone_advanced/o-adv-release-notes.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nordlead Report post Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Johnny Blade said: Version 9.0.3 was released few days ago. Has anyone tried and felt any improvement in loading the plugins into Samp? I updated yesterday but didn’t notice any significant change. This version still needs at least 10 seconds to open as VST. The standalone version works well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny Blade Report post Posted December 23, 2019 Thanks for your answer! How boring! I have seen a lot of people, users of various DAWs, complaining exactly about this delay and the manufacturer does not face the problem? Two, one: either the manufacturer ignores the failure with its VSTs, or is still trying to solve it ... O8 remains the best choice, but the sound quality of the O9 is very seductive! It offers a clarity of detail and an interesting "texture" of very nice saturation, especially in the limiters, both vintage and IRCs. I'm being compelled to use O9 anyway... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny Blade Report post Posted December 23, 2019 I found an effective way to make Samp/Sequoia open projects loaded with Ozone 9 VST plugins faster: I set up Windows "Task Manager" to force the "Sequoia_x64.exe" to work with realtime priority (see photo below). I have noticed that projects are opening approximately 50% faster than before. I am still analyzing possible side effects on the system (Windows 10 64-bit). So far, however, everything has worked within the normal range. Some Ozone wave charts, however, have been behaving slightly slowly, but nothing that is very obvious - and this should concern the processing limitations of the notebook I'm using. Overall, it's a very decent solution. The only drawback is that this setting has to be done every time I open Sequoia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
