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  1. what is your setup? Which VST's? Which monitoring mode are you using? Are you working in economy or hybrid mode or...? in Hybrid mode, normally, having a Dual core machine and Win XP

    MIDI tracks with VST's should freeze. Audio tracks with VST effects should freeze with the effects added. Effects on aux tracks I THINK should also freeze.

    Here we are, and thanks to clarify for me...Midi track use VST's and Audio track use VST effects....then ? we can't have VST effect on Midi tracks...?

    Did you try freezing directly from the VST manager?

    NO, not yet, coming later...and Thanks Greg, a big thanks :lol:

    Greg

  2. OK, I found the way with the VST...i but not with the VST...Then? we can only use the VSTi, I mean an instrument, to FREEZE a midi track?

    What about the normal VST ?

    thanks

    All VST's - effects, synths, EQ's, etc. should freeze with the entire track (like render).

    Greg

    then ? why, when I try, only the VST'i...s are recording into wav? when I do it with normal VST, the FREEZE is coming or rendering blank? and the wav is recorded but empty......?

    thanks :lol:

  3. Ok, I dig, and dig, and, thanks something with your help I could figure out...Yes with the VSTi it is working, but, I was not sure, after I had also to save the Freeze object, into a Wav or MP3 file.....

    Then ? now, if I like to save, say from a midi file with 16 tracks, then, I suppose, I can save or the all file into an audio file part or part of it...this is GREAT......

    happy I am happy you helped me..... :lol::D but still much to learn.....

  4. hi,

    you don't need to REC, if I understand well. If it's just change midi track in audio tracks, you can use freeze function or bounce function.

    If you want to use Vsti's, simply load them on midi tracks, and freeze for example. Done.

    best

    Phil

    Sorry and thanks, still not clear....How can I change a midi track into an audio track? I would need a real wav file, or MP3, and the freeze function or bounce, I am still lost with it....

    Sorry..... :lol:

  5. Map each MIDI channel (instrument) to a separate track and record the MIDI performance on those tracks, and then freeze.

    Or try just recording all your MIDI onto one track, and then go to MIDI>Demix MIDI objects by MIDI channel and it will extract all the MIDI tracks that way (good for drums also).

    OK, I did recorded a midi file with Korg PA1, format 0 or 1, do not recall, and when I loaded into Sam, I did the Demix, and sorry I am still lost with the freeze function......

    Then freeze those tracks.

    Note that freeze really only works with VST's, so if you're recording the MIDI sequence from an external synth, then just setup Samplitude to record MIDI and audio on the same track.

    here again, how can I tell Samplitude to REC audio and midi at the same time? If I goes under track option I can only REC or midi or Audio, but not both at the same time...Lost again....But, now, If I make a mistake, and need to correct it, I wouls only REC first with MIDI mode, and then after corrected, REC into Audio track.... I very seldom use VST or VSTi.....

    Thanks for your help, but, under the help file, I could find only one Freeze instrument help...this is not clear for me yet.....

    Greg

    clopin :lol:

  6. yes, I like to know, how to REC each Midi tracks from a midi file in audio format?

    say I have on midi track1 the melody,

    on midi track 2 a bass,

    on midi track 10, drums and so one, I would like to know, if I MUST REC each tracks separatly with my audiocard, an fireface 800, or? if I would like to use VSTi instrument, what would be the exact procedure to use with Samplitude 10?

    I really need to save each midi track into a unique audio wav file, for editing purpose....

    many thanks.....

  7. Greg, Frank, Phil,

    thanks all of you for your time and answers...

    What I do understand, is we can do it from the midi side but not from the audio side, I mean on the audio, we could do it, but this is time, and not too sure if the result would be nice, and, yes I am watching the Video's, but, did not find something on the tempo subject, of what I am looking for...

    and, we can rec from an hardware live tempo change on audio, but, Samplitude is not yet able to detect the change...Does a software like Melodyne, who could very soon, recognize into a chord and separate differents voices or timbres, but, for the tempo, this must be a different stuff altogether...then the sample or Wav or MP3, presently can only be stretched or make shorther, but, ? what would be needed from a mathematic point of view to find an exact change or variation of tempo in an audio file?

    thanks you :)

    Frank, just a question....you said """I think it is better to do the tempo variation already while recording the performance and match the VIP tempo map afterwards. """ then How would you do it, by guessing? no I am sure, but how? thanks you

  8. hi,
    What I would like to know, is, first how to truly see, some change of a Tempo, from a BPM of 100 and going to 130 on, say 10 bars....Can we do it on Audio wav or not? or only on Midi materials?

    have you recorded some audio at 100 and now need to create a progression ?? don't know if it's possible !

    My vision of tempo with audio at least, is : put first your markers on the arrangement, activate Click, and Rec, following the tempo variation.

    It should be the same when recording MIDI. But importing midi file is another story as Sampliquoia asks to import or not the tempo of the MIDI file. I've never tried to put first a tempo map on an empty arrangement, import a MIDI file and said No to the question to try to use this map on the imported file.

    Hope some tempo experts will come here !

    best

    Phil

    Ok Phil thanks again, and, like you said, it would be nice to have others members giving some more ideas on the subject....

    I did recorded a multitrak project at 100 bpm. When the project is finished and saved into a VIP file, I would like to gradually increase or decrease it from any bars for a certain amount of bars, to make either the slowing down of the project, at a certain point and going back, for example to it's original tempo, but, either slowly or very quickly...then ? still no idea? in that case, whne I record, I use a steady tempo, and I was certain we could modify tempo into a project,,,,or I am very stupid, still....

    thanks for ALL imputs......

    Ok, then come a second question...

    If I would record a project and, when recording, would change or manipulate the tempo live, with an arranger or a synth, we could do it, using the tempo knob of the hardware, then ????? Samplitude 10, how it would be able to find the variation of tempo from the project?

    thanks you

  9. I just did try the Crossfade Editor, and, when I did some manipulation, the project was stopped, and when I did played back, I had a message telling Out of Sync....and the sound was playing like a mumble not very OK, Then, I searched for some informations in the book and in the help file, but, nothing is mentionned...

    I had to close Sampli10 and restart....

    What did I did wrong?

    RME fireface 800 and kHz 48000, Asio buffer 256

    thanks you

  10. Tempo/Bar marker

    Tempo and bar switches are an important expression medium of your music and can be manipulated in Samplitude with a vast range of possibilities.

    OK I have read it, but, still I do not grab it, because, we can do tith, we can do that, but HOW ?

    The definition of tempo and bar measure changes is achieved completely using markers inside the project window. Continual speed progressions or abrupt tempo / bar measure changes can be defined with special tempo and bar markers. Resulting tempo progressions are automatically calculated. The display in the transport window provides optical control of the tempo and bar measures, showing current values during playback and repositioning.

    You can move the musical grid using data points to certain time position or adapt it to existing audio and MIDI events, for example, a reference drum track.

    Three marker types are available for grid definition:

    Tempo

    Beat count measure (musical signature)

    Bar position

    You can also transfer tempo information ("tempo maps") from the MIDI file to your project during import. Here Samplitude automatically creates the tempo markers necessary for this. "Tempo maps" can be exported as MIDI files.

    In addition, MIDI and audio objects can be coupled to the musical grid and then modified depending on the position during tempo changes.

    YES, but again HOW to DO it? cry cry.....and, with the book Samplitude 10, we only have a tempo marker.....did not see something else, yet....

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    What I would like to know, is, first how to truly see, some change of a Tempo, from a BPM of 100 and going to 130 on, say 10 bars....Can we do it on Audio wav or not? or only on Midi materials?

    A tutorial could be very handy, here, I do not speak about the stretching, or, maybe I do not understand well, but, even if I put tempo marker, inside an object, and that object is alone in a VIP project, do I have to cut the object at each change of tempo?

    thanks you.... :D

    for example I love the video in the forum, they are a great help, and I thanks for it

  11. oh I see, just select a part of the wave (with few bars). Then you've got 2 solutions : first, simply go to Project Option > General, click on the button called Get BPM from Selected Range.

    Second, go to Remix Agent ... and read the explains ! :D

    have fun !

    Phil

    well doctor Philw, thanks for your help, to be handy for sure and, watch out, pour guy, I would need more from you....If you can stand it....

  12. hi,

    I understand you mean a decrease (or increase) by a "curve" of tempo during some time (or bar).

    I remember we already discuss of this in the midi forum.

    But, you can find an option under Tempo > Tempo / Time signature, called Interpolate Tempo from previous marker (or something like that ...). Put the first tempo marker @110, then put a second tempo marker @100 and click this option.

    good luck

    Phil

    merci Phil, c'est encore trouble....

    Thanks Phil I still have trouble with it, I mean with the markers, need time more time...In fact, my first question would be, how to find the exact timing of a beat, if I open a wav file and not knowing what is the BMP...do we have a way to deal with it?

    have a nice day

  13. I cannot play it back, I mean, when I start the transportbar, it start a splitsecond and stop.....? what did I did wrong?

    Also, how can we post directly in the Midi related forum? ;):)

    You need to register a "licenced" forum-account to post in the main forums.

    I'm no midi-guy, so I cannot help much with your question, but it sounds almost like you have an accidental small loop-range on (with no loop activated). Otherwise I have no idea unfortunately, sounds very strange :lol:

    You should be perfectly ok with your 32bitXP - its what most people use here.

    - register and try the midi-forum...

    I found with nice help the way to register, and I would post on the midi forum...Your idea of a small loop range is not bad, but, how to correct it? Erik thanks for your help

  14. Yes, happy I am, I bought it, and now, can learn it....Of course to read teh forum is great and help....

    I already had troubles ( sorry) with the software, like....

    I use 2 partition on a Dual core processor, having plenty of Ram 2 gig, dedicated harddisk for audio recording, and more..

    I use an RME fireface 800, an USB midi interface, I use also a Korg PA1X workstation, and a Korg Oasys, and my ultimate goal is to record with Samplitude, 2 audio tracks from PA1 on analog, 5 audio track with World clock and ADAT and SPDIF, and for midi purpose I use, the FireRME for Oasys, and the Roland interface for PA1X pro....

    I have tolearn, but, what I could enjoy help for, Today, I made 2 separate recording, only with Midi all, one track for each gear, I did check, tempo, I/O for midi, also I did put a checkmark for the Thru active, and when recording, could see all the midi tarcks OK...But, I cannot play it back, I mean, when I start the transportbar, it start a splitsecond and stop.....? what did I did wrong?

    all is happening with Win XP Pro edition...Also, I have no clue if that is of importance, the Windows XP is 32 bits, and my machine has on the other partition a Vista 64 bits.....

    Also, when I touch the SOLO icon for one or more tracks, the playback suddenly goes about 40 to 50 % less...? and when that happened I was just having 7 stereo tracks and 2 midi ALL tracks....

    thanks for any help....

    Also, how can we post directly in the Midi related forum? ;);)

    thanks very kindly for all your charming answers :lol:

    just make sure you read the manual.

    Then check that your I/O settings are correct.

    Then make sure your playback settings is pointing to your MIDI instrument.

    Then read the manual.

    Also, the videos are very good.

    Greg

    Greg thanks, I followed your explanation, and even if my I/O are I assume correct, when opening a template, very often, the setting change without warning by themself...I never encountered that behaviour before, when using an audio board like ESI1010, btu, with RME fireface800, this is a whole different story....

    I need to find out time for watching video too....

    I also checked, and not once, each time I do check the midi setting, and using one workstation and 1 synth, I do not know witch one would be better to be first on the Samplitude setting, the one running the midi I/O of fireface 800midi oe the one using the Roland UM2, drivers uptodate, that I use for workstation Midi I/O on 1....and for each instrument the midi playback I do use their proper midi output, not yet played back by the internal sounds of Samplitude midi neither by VSTi....

    and for the Manual yes I do read it..... :)

  15. I did a template, and saved into Sam 10 for midi purpose...

    Then, when I fire my Windows, eithers WinXP 32 bits or Vista 64 bits, 2 differents partitions, I always have a change of midi setting from Sam10 and very often the Midi 1 I/O that I use for Korg Oasys, and midi 2 I/O, that I use for Korg PA1, even if I had checked on the master output or input from Samplitude, I must chutdown the computer to restart fresh....I always be very carefull when starting, first the computer, after the RMEff800, after the 2 Korg and last one Samplitude...I even, disconect the Virus software to be sure, but, still I have trouble with Midi I/O from Sam10...

    No ideas?

    thanks

    I do not truly know, if that is a newbie question...? ;)

  16. Yes, happy I am, I bought it, and now, can learn it....Of course to read teh forum is great and help....

    I already had troubles ( sorry) with the software, like....

    I use 2 partition on a Dual core processor, having plenty of Ram 2 gig, dedicated harddisk for audio recording, and more..

    I use an RME fireface 800, an USB midi interface, I use also a Korg PA1X workstation, and a Korg Oasys, and my ultimate goal is to record with Samplitude, 2 audio tracks from PA1 on analog, 5 audio track with World clock and ADAT and SPDIF, and for midi purpose I use, the FireRME for Oasys, and the Roland interface for PA1X pro....

    I have tolearn, but, what I could enjoy help for, Today, I made 2 separate recording, only with Midi all, one track for each gear, I did check, tempo, I/O for midi, also I did put a checkmark for the Thru active, and when recording, could see all the midi tarcks OK...But, I cannot play it back, I mean, when I start the transportbar, it start a splitsecond and stop.....? what did I did wrong?

    all is happening with Win XP Pro edition...Also, I have no clue if that is of importance, the Windows XP is 32 bits, and my machine has on the other partition a Vista 64 bits.....

    Also, when I touch the SOLO icon for one or more tracks, the playback suddenly goes about 40 to 50 % less...? and when that happened I was just having 7 stereo tracks and 2 midi ALL tracks....

    thanks for any help....

    Also, how can we post directly in the Midi related forum? ;):)

    thanks very kindly for all your charming answers :lol:

  17. Yes, happy I am, I bought it, and now, can learn it....Of course to read teh forum is great and help....

    I already had troubles ( sorry) with the software, like....

    I use 2 partition on a Dual core processor, having plenty of Ram 2 gig, dedicated harddisk for audio recording, and more..

    I use an RME fireface 800, an USB midi interface, I use also a Korg PA1X workstation, and a Korg Oasys, and my ultimate goal is to record with Samplitude, 2 audio tracks from PA1 on analog, 5 audio track with World clock and ADAT and SPDIF, and for midi purpose I use, the FireRME for Oasys, and the Roland interface for PA1X pro....

    I have tolearn, but, what I could enjoy help for, Today, I made 2 separate recording, only with Midi all, one track for each gear, I did check, tempo, I/O for midi, also I did put a checkmark for the Thru active, and when recording, could see all the midi tarcks OK...But, I cannot play it back, I mean, when I start the transportbar, it start a splitsecond and stop.....? what did I did wrong?

    all is happening with Win XP Pro edition...Also, I have no clue if that is of importance, the Windows XP is 32 bits, and my machine has on the other partition a Vista 64 bits.....

    Also, when I touch the SOLO icon for one or more tracks, the playback suddenly goes about 40 to 50 % less...? and when that happened I was just having 7 stereo tracks and 2 midi ALL tracks....

    thanks for any help....

    Also, how can we post directly in the Midi related forum? :ph34r::D

  18. You can use the MIDI channel input filter and record on 16 MIDI tracks simultaniously,

    but you can also record on one MIDI track and then use the MIDI demix command in the menu "MIDI". This command separates the MIDI data on several tracks, one track per MIDI channel.

    Greetings,

    Frank

    Ok thanks Frank, this is helpfull. the MIDI DEMIX, Now, I am sorry but, from where do I do the input filter in Samplitude?

    Also, I have something else, for example I have a Korg Oasys and a Korg PA1 Pro, when recording Midi in the Samplitude from the PA1, I had no trouble to truly REC the tracks from ALL to ALL on one Midi track method...Then I try do do the same with the Oasys, even if I follow the tutorial from Stephen at Karma lab, on How to REC Karma with an external sequencer, even if I have with Oasys, either in Combi mode or in internal sequencer mode, even if I rec only one Midi track with all, I am not able to truly REC the Karma modules coming from the Oasys, only the musical data, but not the kind fo accompagniment pattern generated by the Karma, then, would you think, it could be better to chain the Oasys midi OUT to PA1 Midi IN, and from there, send midi OUT to my soundcard an RME FF800 and back to Oasys? do you think if Oasys would be on Slave mode I would be able to truly rec the Karma module going into PA1 arranger workstation inside Samplitude....?

    In fact, we have so many differents settings to make, I probably make a mistake somewhere, but, I could no see, yet, a simple way or tutorial on how to make either good midi setup with external gears...maybe you would have some ideas?

    Thanks for your help....

    I also find if I midi rec on several midi tracks, with ALL in midi input and 1 ~~ 16 on separate midi track, Samplitude would RECORD all the same data in each tracks??? then again, where do I make the fault? this is always related with Oasys and Karma module....

    have a nice day and many thanks... :)

  19. Hi, I have a Korg Oasys, and I would like to know exactly how to midi rec from Oasys to Samplitude 10 demo..

    I tried to have each midi channel or track, like 1 IN and 1 OUT, and so one...My present trouble, I can only be able to RECORD only one timbre or voice, and I am pretty sure we can do it....

    Or ? do I have to RECORD only on midi track on general channel track 01? then, How to I split the muitiple midi tracks, into differents tracks, I mean like in Sonar, be able to use a CAL program...?

    thanks you very kindly

    :)

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